OHOH....TPTB EXPOSED!!! HEHE

Ok, this is CRAZY but I found the common link between orientation film and Hoffitt film!!!!!!!!!!! (besides JWH1972)

I was first following MG's advice and went looking for James Handy. Only things that popped up were for a modern day actor. NO DIRECTOR JAMES HANDY. (btw, his link to www.historicalfilms.com doesnt work. That domaine is for sale)

I was looking at the newest video from our new blogger MG. At the beginning it DOESNT SAY James Handy....I couldnt quite make it out so I thought I would just do a google on "Handy white magic film" and BAMMMMMMM!!!!

click here to go to archive.com!

What I disscovered was the stockpile of videos that were used in BOTH ORIENTATION FILM 1980 AND HOFFITT'S HANSO INDUSTRIES FILM~! OH YAH!  Look up both "Jam Handy" and "Jerry Fairbanks" on archive.com and you will find tons of the footage that were used!!!

SO...what this has done is TWO things at least:

First, it CLEARLY shows where both videos got the footage from, which would kind of tie them together.

Second, how did JWH1972 on flickr get to those photos ON THE SAME DAY as the orientation video came out unless he/she already KNEW where to look.

Something tells me if one of my buddies with high speed internet was to research on archive.com long enough, they whould also find the footage of "the DeGroots" too.

THIS IS REALLY getting interesting folks!

UPDATE! HOFFITT FILMS

Hoffitt Films update:

Not sure how many people know, but there is a new blog created by the youtube Hoffittfilms user.

click here for hoffittsfilms blog

This blog was created on July 29th. The EBlogger that posted it signs his name as MG. Profile on EBlogger is jerry hoffitt but has no other blogs or information.

Now the way I personally discovered this blog is odd. I was looking at the stats for video research blog and went to look at where people were coming in from and noticed a google search for Hoffitt films. I went to check it out and NUMBER TWO on the hit list was the new blog!!



click here to view the real google search

Now here is the first interesting thing we figured out. HOW DID THIS NEW BLOG get to NUMBER TWO on google search so fast??!! Anyone who is fairly geeky knows that is an interesting fact. My husband is such a geek. LOL

I personally found this site on August 2. At that time there were only 4 comments indicating there were only a select few who knew about this.





Now on to the blog details:

1. The blog basically is a written by a “normal non gamer person” who “found” a reel of film in his celler.

click here to view who is jerry hoffitt post

2. He explains that he DOES NOT KNOW who Jerry Hoffitt is.

3. There is a new video in the blog that is also on youtube. I went to youtube and discovered that this new video is in fact a new video for “hoffittfilms” on youtube. It is called “The Island” and has a link next to it to the new blog!! That means this is at least the same user for sure!




I will add more on this later…want to hurry and update my research blog!!


***ADDED JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO***

New video and post from MG!! YAH! Go check it out!

Team Lena

Updates...July 4, 2006 at 9pm PST

Ok, just wanted to add some things.
1. It was brought to my attention that users CAN change upload and picture taken dates on flickr.
2. I DO NOT believe JWH1972 is IN GAME... I see this more as a possible crew member NOT a cast member.
3. YES... the blogs url is spelled wrong... cant change it now. LOL
4. The date at top of these post are set to 2007 because its a way to keep certain post at the top...just a blogger trick... not important.

5. NEW UPDATE...July 2, at 9pm PST...Proof pictures WERE there on June 19th! READ POST "AND THE PLOT THINKENS"!!!!!

6. NEW UPDATE...July 4, at 12pm PST...JWH1972 adds NEW picture to his flickr account...just one single picture.  CLICK HERE TO GO!!

NOW...with all this being said, GO READ!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you for visiting!

The Saga~how I arrived to this...

Here is how I arrived to this idea:

First...WAY back on May 13th 2006 a video was posted on youtube.com.  It is called "Hanso Industries".  It was uploaded from a user by the name HoffittFilms.
  click here to see HoffittFilms profile

Since that time I have been subscriber to that user and had never seen them log on to youtube.com till a couple of days ago (June 28th I believe).  On that day the profile said that user had been on within the week.  Now I had been keeping my eyes peeled for this user to log on to youtube.com because I found that video simply amazing!   On June 29th that same user was logged in ALL DAY.

On June 21st I became friends with mandrakewig on myspace mandrakewig myspace click here Found him by communication from several fellow LOSTIES who said that he was in-game and that he was refered by a ROT charactor on AIM named DSLerator.  I HAD to see this for myself LOL!! 

Mandrakewig and I chatted A BUNCH for the next several days and for long story short...he put out blog on June 29th  click here to view

Now I was already a flickr user so I went and became contact/friend with mandrake on flickr right after the blog was published.

I get invite to be contact/friend with JWH1972 within 25 minutes of becoming contact/friend with mandrake. Turns out JWH1972 was already a contact with mandrake.   THE ONLY contact with mandrake besides me.  We three (me, mandrake, and JWH1972) were a threesome for most of that day.  Mandrake and JWH1972 both only had me as a contact/friend.  

NOW...the weird part for me was a couple of things.  First, this JWH1972 had a bunch of familiar photos.  Further inspection let me to realize that some were from the orientation_testing_issue_1980 that was discovered on thehansofoundation.org June 19th.  Thanks to 007surge, there is now a youtube video to see as hanso site is down.

Further investigation led me to realize that the OTHER photos on JWH1972 were from the Hoffitt video "Hanso Industries".

Looking at the name of the user...I became VERY suspecious of this user.

Me and hubby TEAM LENA aka me and rxhector inlisted settern to aid us as we are NOT video/image gurus.   So, she has graced us with her skill and we think we have a case to IF ANYTHING prove that the Hanso Industries video is IN GAME and that we need to keep a WATCHFULL eye on both JWH1972 on flickr and HoffittFilms on youtube.com.

And the plot thickens.....

FIRST SUBJECT:

First, want to give a BIG shout out to jlmlostarg on TLEC for sharing the following 
information with us!

jlmlostarg had remembered that he saw a posting about the Hoffitt video.  So he contacted me with the details!!

This is the forum post he recalls posted by a user named jarvik7 (though has not posted there since):  click here to view post

This user only posted 7 post on this board.  The post on May 20, 2006 about the Hoffitt video was his last post.

These are screen captures I took, just in case the threads leave or you don't wish to visit the website:

the post
jarvik7 profile
jarviks list of post
jarviks list of post 2

Now, as you can see he spoke of an archive website that has video where it is obvious that Hoffitt film used. click here for that website


NEXT SUBJECT:

Our friend jlmlostarg also told me of this;

HansoLow click here to see hansolow's post
click here to see screen capture

saw a comment on Speakers blog: 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/50353199@N00/
Posted by: | June 19, 2006 at 06:12 PM
click here to go to the anominous post
click here to see screen capture

Why did someone post that?  AND more importantly...WHO?  This pretty much proves the pictures of the Orientation film WERE there on flickr on June 19th!!  Once again, how would a non insider be able to find and post the exact stock pictures used in the orientation video on the same day?

More details will come....stay tuned

The Image Dates! When they were published!

Oh my gosh! How could it have been missed?


The images! The Flickr images! They were published there June 19th!

Read that. June 19th. What else happened that day? Seems so long ago...

June 19th was the day the Orientation Video came out on theHansoFoundation.org!

How could someone not in-game have access to uneditted versions of pictures from an in-game Orientation Video that came out the same day? That is virtually and plausably impossible.

Thus, timeline of events:

Simultaneous post of JWH Flickr Images and Persephone Psychological Orientation Video.

Case closed in my book.

-The Truth Tempest

More image investigation.

So! Looks like my June 19 lead panned out! Gotta love that. I feel accomplished.


Now! I looked at that 1956 video with some shots for the Hoffitt Film, and one shot right at the beginning caught my eye.

In the Psychological Orientation video, there is one picture that is just too dark for any of us to guess at what it is, but when I saw the radio receiver at the beginning of the 1956 video, it seemed to click! Doesn't it look like the mystery dark picture is a radio telescope/receiver for listening into space?



Looks pretty similar to me.


In other news! Remember Mandrake Wig, ol Manny, having a picture on his Flickr account of stirred up water? Well... this picture from the 1956 film got me thinking:



What if his "phenomena" with the water is just a reference to hydro-electric power? I know it seems out of left field, but the way water gets stirred up looks similar. Not to mention -anything- electromagnetic is suspicious in the LOST Experience and LOST overall.

Nice work everyone! Seems to really be coming together. I believe JWH is someone that works as part of their crew who has access to their materials and just likes having fun.

-The Truth Tempest

Misc Stuff

Quick little side note
I have found some truly amazing photography and artwork on flickr - if you havent taken the opportunity to browse around sometime - try it
good keywords to find pics amazingly enough are copenhagen and iceland
ok - im done rambling now

picture of the Church on RBs blog
http://www.flickr.com/photos/asmundur/177161717/
(oh yeah, this guy asmundur has the most awesome pictures)

poem that goes with the church

It's tricky to translate. It's mocking the mathematical look of the building and finally, Hallgrímur a priest and a poet after whom the church is named, returns from his grave to beg the architecht to stop.

picture of Copenhagen town hall on RBs blog
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ule/136317760/
i scaled it to the same size and it overlays perfect

found another match for Rachel B blog pics
http://www.flickr.com/photos/huzhead/51420391/

found another match for Rachel B blog pics
http://www.flickr.com/photos/photos_in_the_sunset/78809753/


apparently soembody got mail from Hanso?
how the hell did that happen?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hawaii/122039308/

Video/Images Conclusions

I have taken the approach of looking for links between current LOST Experience Clues and the Hoffitt film. Here are my findings so far.

At the beginning on a chalkboard, they are working on an equation with the variables D and O and a good set of numbers. Not enough is shown for me to put an answer to their equation. Yet, D^2 and O has been linked in our game to D20, heavy water. On the blackboard at the beginning of the film, we can clearly see "infertility" on it. Infertility is the first symptom of heavy water poisoning.

Then, the researchers' cloaks may not have the dharma logo on them, but they do have something rather odd. It appears to be an "anti-" something symbol. The circle with a line through it. Still, it is also possible it is just breaking up the two letters S and Z. I have found no information on any industries or links with those initials or that symbol, but I believe further investigation is certainly in order. If we can find that it is not a Hanso Foundation symbol, we will have most assuredly busted the Hoffitt video's validity.

Below are image comparisons from the movie and the Orientation Film:


This image looks familiar... yes? That's all I can say.



Comparison between the two probe pictures. Very odd but interesting.

Now, the real deal...




In the Jerry William Hoffitt video, we got to see this dish. In the Orientation video, we saw this dish. Next to eachother, it is convincing to me that they are the same model.


Now, due to new information that has just come to light, I am in agreement that Mandrake Wig is part of the game as a front for RetrieversOfTruth clues. Yet, I wish to go on record as saying that their referencing him does not make him in-game, considering the many community references that have been made before and links to the fan-made http://emri.perception.net/.

Also, the Hoffitt video promotes the Hanso brand as an American venture. Yet, we all know that it is based in Copenhagen, Denmark. How does that meld together? There are also problems with a 1965 video referencing the term "nanotechnology" that was first made in 1974, almost ten years later.

So, my current conclusion is that there is not enough evidence to conclude in-game. Thus, for the moment, it should not be seen as in-game until further supporting evidence is presented.

In light of this fact, I believe the rest of the LOST Experience community needs to be brought in. There is enough evidence to at least present it as being possibly in-game, and it would feel irresponsible to me if we did not let this information out in its current form. We need the aid of the community in bringing confirmation to our concerns and doubts.